Antisemitic trope on BBC comments board – again

Among the already moderated comments on this article currently on display in the “In Pictures” section of the BBC News website, and also promoted on its Middle East page, is the following one.

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This is not the first instance of offensive comments being allowed to stand on BBC comments boards, as we documented earlier this month and, as we wrote then, it is the BBC’s responsibility to ensure that its moderators adhere to its own house rules which prohibit racist comments.

Those ‘house rules’ also state [emphasis added] that:  

“The blog author or host does not usually moderate the content of the boards, although it is their job to keep the discussions relevant to the topic and within the BBC’s guidelines. They may close off-topic or other rule-breaking discussions, and sometimes make a decision on comments that have been referred to them by the moderators. They may also alert the moderators to rule-breaking comments that they see in the course of their work.”

In this particular case, that would appear to be the BBC’s Picture Editor Phil Coomes. 

33 comments on “Antisemitic trope on BBC comments board – again

  1. More people have been slaughtered in 2 years in Syria than have EVER died in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. But the BBC continues to fixate only on Palestinians.

    • BBC World is focusing on conflicts everywhere in the world, including in Israel and in Syria. What’s wrong with that? Why should they stop talking about violations in Israel or Palestine? It’s part of their job to report on every conflict – that’s why they’re called BBC World.

      • Because they never talk about the horrendous human rights abuses committed by the Palestinians, whether in the guise of Hamas or Fatah. Funny how the rabid Jew hater supports the BBC – what does that tell you about the BBC?

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  3. Love your photo, Phil. The tight-thin-lipped sneer of contempt emblematises BBC moderation policy so well.

  4. “If the Israelis stop thinking of themselves as gods chosen people and stealing other peoples land….”

    Just why is this comment regarded as offensive? The Bible clearly describes Jews as God’s chosen people:

    “For you are a holy people to YHWH your God, and God has chosen you to be his treasured people from all the nations that are on the face of the earth.
    Deuteronomy 14:2”

    There are soft re-interpretations of this piece of scripture by modern Rabbis, just as some Christians offer re-interpretations of the those parts of the Bible which are offensive to modern eyes. However the meaning of the original is pretty obvious and would clearly be maintained by many current Jewish scholars.

    As for Israelis’ ‘stealing other peoples land’: this is a view shared by many millions all around the world, and one which is becoming increasingly dominant as the settlements expand and Netanyahu’s arrogance becomes more widely known.

    • Wow, first the Khazar myth from you, and now this.
      Is Israeli policy dictated by the belief that the Jews are “God’s chosen people”?
      Do Israelis declare themselves, as such?
      That’s the essence of the commentator’s argument — and, par for the anti-Semitic course, so is yours.

        • “Nat”,
          Your new sockpuppet is unimpressive.
          What’s made you change handles, and suddenly abandon your neutrality? You’ve become antisemitic now?
          Clear off, troll

          • Susan – the new expert on Judaism on BBCwatch. Thank you for showing your total and absolute ignorance about the subject. Do you think that using a Hebrew name makes you one of the “chosen”? What a joke…

          • Peter,
            I think in “Shoshana’s” overwrought rant, you can find the distinct and sophomoric signature of “Nat”.
            He was probably banned, and so resorted to sockpuppets. He has done this before, actually.

          • I’m sorry but I’ve rarely read something as dumb as the above article. How could you say that ‘writing that Jews are God’s chosen people is”antisemitic”‘, seriously?

            Jews consider themselves the chosen people, chosen to be in a covenant with God. This idea is first found in the Torah (the five books of Moses, which are also included in the Christian Bible) and is elaborated on in later books of the Hebrew Bible.

            Are people writing for BBC Watch Jews? They don’t seem to know the basic tenets of Judaism.

          • “Nat”, don’t be coy now. This change of monikers has not benefited your reasoning, it would appear.
            To whom it may concern, with a positive(i.e. greater than zero) intelligence quotient(“Nat”/”Shoshana”/”Voice of Reason”/”NIF-cheques-R-us” — skip on ahead) , let it be understood, that the problem is the pejorative use of the “chosen” meme.
            In other words, it’s the idea that Jews actually hold themselves superior to other peoples, and thereby afford themselves free reign over non-Jews.
            That is quintessential anti-Semitism.
            “Nat” — and this is aimed at you — you did posit something very useful: If you don’t like something, you’re welcome not to read it.
            So: Be gone, foul troll!

          • Please note that this is a public forum where everyone can come and debate – provided they respect each other. If you disagree, and if you cannot control your agressivity, please go somewhere else.

          • It is ridiculous to say that ‘writing that Jews are God’s chosen people is”antisemitic”.

            Jews consider themselves the chosen people, chosen to be in a covenant with God. This idea is first found in the Torah (the five books of Moses, which are also included in the Christian Bible) and is elaborated on in later books of the Hebrew Bible.

            I’m surprised – and saddened – at your lack of knowlege of Judaism.

          • “Nat”, I explained the issue perfectly well.
            Secondly, this is not a public spa e for your trolling.
            Please spam somewhere else.
            Clear off, trolling scum.

        • Because the sense in which antisemites use the term “chosen people” utterly misrepresents what the Judaic concept of “chosen people” means,
          Strange you don’t realise that, Shoshana, with that pretty Hebrew name of yours.

          • Exactly, Daphne.

            Though people who sling the ‘chosen people’ thing about might do well to listen to a few national anthems and/or patriotic songs relevant to their own country.

    • Thank you for this comment Sencar, it is a real gift for the weekend. Proving that you don’t have the slightest idea about the “chosen people” concept in Judaism and that you are a vicious anti-Semite in one short post is a serious achievement.

  5. Termination of Contract/Special Status (Chosen People)

    As you are aware, the contract made between you and Abraham is up for renewal, and this memorandum is to advise you that after, yea, those
    many millennia of consideration, we, the Jews (The Chosen People) have decided that we really do not wish to renew.

    We should point out immediately that there is nothing in writing, and,contrary to popular beliefs, we (The Jews) have not really benefited too much from this arrangement. If you go back to the early years of our arrangement, it definitely started off on the wrong footing.

    Not only was Israel and Judea invaded almost every year, but we went to enormous expense to erect not one but two Temples, and they were both
    destroyed. All we have left is a pile of old stones called the Western Wall (of course you know all this, but we feel it’s a good thing to account for all the reasons we wish to terminate the contract).

    After the Hittites, Assyrians, Goliaths, etc, not only were we beaten up almost daily, but then we were sold off as slaves to Egypt of all countries, and really lost a few hundred years of development.

    Now we realize that you went to a great deal of trouble to send Moses to lead us out of Egypt, and those poor Egyptian buggers were smitten with all those plagues, But, reflecting on those years, we are at a loss to understand why it took almost forty years to make a trip that El Al now does in 75 minutes.

    Also, while not appearing to be ungrateful, for years a lot of people have asked why Moses led us left instead of right at Sinai? If we had gone right, we would have had the oil!

    OK, so the oil was not part of the deal, but then the Romans came and we
    really were up to our necks in dreck. While it’s true that the Romans did give us water fit to drink, aqueducts, and baths, it was very disconcerting to walk down one of the vias, look up, and see one of your friends or family nailed to a three-by-four looking for all the world like a sign post.
    Even one of our princes, Judah ben Hur got caught up with Roman stuff and drove like a crazy man around the Coliseum. It’s a funny thing but many people swore that Ben Hur had an uncanny resemblance to Moses…go figure.

    Then, of all things, one of our rabbis (teachers) declared himself “Son of You” (there was nothing said about this with Abe) and before we knew what was what, a whole new religion sprang up.

    To add insult to injury, we were dispersed all over the world two or three times while this new religion really caught on! We were truly sorry to hear that the Romans executed him like so many others, but, … alas, (and this will make you laugh,) once again WE were blamed.

    Now here’s something we really don’t understand. That rabbi, one of ours and your own son, really came into his own. Millions of people revered and worshipped his name and scriptures……and still killed us by the millions. Claimed we drank the blood of new born infants, and controlled the world banks (Oy! if only that were true) We could have bought them all off, and operated the worlds’ media and so on and so on. Are we beginning to make our point here?

    OK so let’s fast-forward a few hundred years to the Crusades. Hoo boy! Again we were caught in the middle! They, the Lords and Knights, came from all over Europe to smack the Arabs and open up the holy places, but before we knew what hit us, they were killing us right, left, and center along with everyone else.

    Every time a king or a pope was down in the opinion polls, they called a crusade or holy war, and went on a killing rampage in our land. Today it’s called Jihad. OK, so you tested us a little there, but then some bright cleric in Spain came up with the Inquisition. We all thought it was a new game show, but once again we and, we must admit, quite a few others were used as firewood for a whole new street lighting arrangement in major Spanish cities.
    All right, so that ended after about a hundred years or so…in the great scheme of things not a long time. But every time we settled down in one country or another..they kicked us out! So we wandered around a few hundred years or so, but it never changed.

    Finally we settled in a few countries but they insisted we all live in ghettoes…no Westchesters of Moscow for us. There we are in the ghettoes, when what do you know? The Russians come up with the Pogroms. We all
    thought they made a spelling mistake and misspelled programs, but we were dead wrong (no pun intended).

    Apparently, when there was nothing else for them to do, killing the Jews (a.k.a. The Chosen People, are you getting our drift?) was the in thing.

    Now comes some really tough noogies. We were doing quite well, thank you, in a small European country called Germany, when some house painter wrote a book, said a few things that caught on and became their leader….whoo boy what a bad day that was for us…you know… your Chosen People. We don’t really know where you were in the earth years 1940 to 1945. We know everyone needs a break now and then…even Lord God Almighty needs some time off.

    But really…when we needed you most, you were never around. You are probably aware of this, but if you have forgotten, over six million of your Chosen people, along with quite a few unchosen others were murdered. They even made lampshades out of our skins. Look, we don’t want to dwell on the past, but it gets worse!

    Here we are, it’s 1948, and millions of us are displaced yet again, when you really pull a fast one. We finally get our own land back! Yes!!!
    After all these years, you arrange for us to go back… then all the Arab countries immediately declare war on us.

    We have to tell you that sometimes your sense of humor really eludes us.

    Ok, so we win all the wars, but it’s now 2002 and nothing’s changed. We keep getting blown up, hijacked, and kidnapped. We have no peace whatsoever.

    Enough is enough. So, we hope that you understand that nothing’s forever
    (except you of course) and we respectfully would like to pull out of our verbal agreement vis-à-vis being your chosen people.

    Look, sometimes things work out, sometimes they don’t.

    Let’s be friends over the next few eons and see what happens. How about this?

    We’re sure you recall that Abraham had a whole other family from Ishmael (the ones who got the oil)

    How about making them your chosen people for a few thousand years?

    Respectfully yours, The Jews.

  6. I was not astonished to see Blankets attack on the BBC after last nights program. I approve their are genuine shelter seekers out there who have lived in fear and discrimination. The program showed the total lack of skill of the Immigration Service and the black market of ‘pimps’ work agencies, and impostors who abuse these people by getting them into poorly salaried work.

  7. I believe the main reason that we find ‘the chosen people’ when used as the means to demean Jews is because of how those who do perceive it.

    Every racist, regardless of origin or who they want to believe are lesser beings, are in reality beings with an inferiority complex who lack self confidence and self belief. They can only feel superior by attempting to demean ‘the others’ especially if they feel ‘the others’ might be superior.

    So not too difficult to understand why Jews have borne the brunt of this manifestation over the centuries. The fact that so few have been able to achieve so much, in every field of human endeavour, will always be the motivation that the ‘lesser beings’ will see as a reason to try and bring them down. The sad catch 22 is that the Jew seeks to achieve so much because they need to feel wanted and desired by the rest of society that they depend on for security.

    So these inferior beings can only think that if Jews regard themselves as ‘chosen people’, on top of their other achievements and successes, they must really look down on themselves.

    It’s true that any halfway ‘together’ person would have to feel sorry for them.

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