A BBC quotee opines on Brussels terror attacks

On February 1st the BBC News website published an article which described a temporary roadblock set up following a terror attack by a member of the Palestinian Authority security forces (which it had not reported at the time) as “collective punishment”.

That allegation included a quote from “Palestinian police spokesman Adnan Damiri”.

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Courtesy of Palestinian Media Watch we learn that the same Adnan Damiri had comments to make on the topic of the terror attacks in Brussels on March 22nd.

“Following the terror attacks in Brussels yesterday, in which at least 30 people were murdered and hundreds were injured, PA Security Forces Spokesman Adnan Al-Damiri wrote in a post on his Facebook page that the US and Europe are the ones who created international terror. He claimed, for example, that Europe and the US are responsible for “exporting Jewish terror to Palestine,” and therefore Europe is directly responsible for the terror that strikes it:

“Those who prepare the poison will taste it themselves, and today Europe is having a taste of what it prepared with its own hands.”

[Facebook page of PA Security Forces spokesman Adnan Al-Damiri, March 22, 2016]”

Let’s hope that BBC journalists remember those remarks the next time they are tempted to promote and amplify a quote from Damiri on the subject of terrorism.  

 

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7 comments on “A BBC quotee opines on Brussels terror attacks

  1. Unfortunately he’s right, the West, particulary the U.S., did create international Islamic terrorism, using it as a geo-political since the 1950’s, first to check Russian influence in the Middle East, more recently backing Sunni extremeists in the post Saddam Sunni-Shia conflict. Don’t embarrass yourself pretending otherwise

    • Steven Trop, your comments are factually incorrect. Saddam Hussein’s Baathist generals are the main core who created ISIS, after Saddam was executed (not the US). Another main perpetrator of Islamic terrorism is (Shia) Hezbollah, who are backed by Iran and Russia (and hate the US). Also Gaddafi of Libya was a great exporter of terrorism (Lockerbie bombing, Libyan siege which killed PC Yvonne Fletcher, etc) and an avowed enemy of the US. Saddam, Hezbollah and Gaddafi would have been appalled if you said they were the “creations” of the US. Russia didn’t create Islamic terrorism, but is adept at exploiting it by funding Hezbollah and Iran.

      • “Steven Trop, your comments are factually incorrect. Saddam Hussein’s Baathist generals are the main core who created ISIS, after Saddam was executed (not the US)”

        Saddam Hussein’s Baathist Party was brought to power with the help of the C.I.A. For geo-political purposes the U.S. supported Saddam for decades, for geo-political purposes took him out, and more recently, again for geo-political purposes, played the “Sunni Card” again, aiding ISIS covertly and overtly, directly or through it’s allies, and again, to contain Russian-Iranian influence in the region. You’re forgetting, or perhaps weren’t aware, ISIS was built on Al Qaeda in Iraq, Al Qaeda itself a U.S. construct.

        Whatever the case, terrorism can be promoted by directly supporting it, or by creating the conditions for it to spawn and fester. The U.S. has done both.

        “Another main perpetrator of Islamic terrorism is (Shia) Hezbollah, who are backed by Iran and Russia (and hate the US)”.

        I can understand Israel’s concern for Shia terrorism, but the attacks of 9/11, Paris, Brussels, the international terrorism everyone is worried about today and what this article discusses, is not Shia terrorism, rather Western backed Sunni terrorism. As I said the record goes back to the 1950’s. As the Shia account for less then 10 % percent of Islam, Iran has been a target of western aggression since they elected their first democratic president in the 1950’s, and whether you agree or not, the Palestinian’s have been screwed, it takes a lot of Chutzpah to put Sunni and Shia terrorism in the same boat. You might call it terrorism, others would call it self defense.

        The fight has always been between the Anglo-American’s and the Russian’s, and they’ve both used Islam and the Jews in their fight. Just one of the reasons many Jews were against the creation of Israel in the first place.

        “Also Gaddafi of Libya was a great exporter of terrorism (Lockerbie bombing, Libyan siege which killed PC Yvonne Fletcher, etc)”and an avowed enemy of the US.”

        Whatever can be said about Gaddafi, he made peace with the U.S. and U.K., abandoned his nuclear program and cooperated in the fight against terrorism, particularly against the Benghazi clique we ended up running cover for. Gaddafi’s arsenal is now used in their dirty in Syria and across Africa. Lockerbie is disputable. Research new evidence, and evidence that wasn’t allowed to be presented in the trial, proving Iran was responsible, in retaliation for the U.S. downing of an Iranian commercial 747 prior to it.

        By the way, the U.S. Naval Commander that shot down the Iranian airliner was given a promotion.

        “Saddam, Hezbollah and Gaddafi would have been appalled if you said they were the “creations” of the US. Russia didn’t create Islamic terrorism, but is adept at exploiting it by funding Hezbollah and Iran.

        There are conflicts everywhere. There are assholes everywhere. The U.S. or Russia doesn’t need to create them. I’d be careful though putting U.S. and Russian surrogates in the same boat. The Russian’s and their allies have only responded to western aggression, not instigated it. Again, you might call that terrorism, some might call it self-defense. Nelson Mandela was not long ago a terrorist in the eyes of the West. Now he’s considered one of the greatest men of the 20th Century.

        By the way, Mandela’s first visit when he was freed was to thank Gaddafi for his help in defeating Apartheid, on the way to meeting Castro, for the same reason. There’s a strange disconnect when the greatest man of the 20th Century best friends are the West’s arch-enemies.

        Maybe you should rethink your logic.

        • I’m afraid you’re playing fast and easy with the facts, creating a very flawed summary of events. Your logic seems to be based on the idea that any enemy of the US it its creation (Saddam, Gaddafi, Hezbollah, etc). By the same logic, was Hitler the “creation” of the US? How about Stalin?

          “You’re forgetting, or perhaps weren’t aware, ISIS was built on Al Qaeda in Iraq, Al Qaeda itself a U.S. construct.” No, not really….

          I agree that the US supported Saddam during the Iran-Iraq War, in retaliation for the hostage crisis, in which the Iran Revolutionary Guard kidnapped 50+ American hostages, but that doesn’t mean that the US “created” ISIS. Saddam evolved over his many years in power, and the Baathists were becoming less and less secular and more religious as Saddam’s grip on power began to diminish in his later years. The US was not responsible for this evolution (decline) of the Baathists, but was an observor of it. I repeat – the Baathist generals re-grouped, incorporating some Al Qaeda forces in its wake, and created ISIS.

          Al Qaeda is a complete ragbag of disparate Sunni groups all over many countries, brought together by their anti-Western, anti-US hatred and belief in martyrdom through jihadisim. Many people think they’re so disparate that they don’t even count as a single entity.

          ” It takes a lot of Chutzpah to put Sunni and Shia terrorism in the same boat”. Terrorism is murder. While I agree that Shia’s account for only a small proportion of Islam, their engagement in world terrorism is disproportionate. Hezbollah is a major source of exporting terrorism. How is overthrowing the president of Yemen via the Houthis and causing a catastrophic war there “self-defence?”

          “The Russian’s and their allies have only responded to western aggression, not instigated it.”

          So you don’t call the Russian war in the Donbass area of Ukraine “aggression”? 6,000 Ukrainians have died so far and counting. 90% of Ukrainians polled said they never wanted to be part of Russia. Don’t you call Russia’s backing of Iran and Hezbollah’s war in various parts of the world (Yemen, Israel) “aggression”? What about the annexation of Crimea, where there are serious human rights abuses against the Tartars? And the large numbers of innocents that Russia has bombed in their pointless intervention in Syria, all aiding Assad and his Alawite clan?

          I agree that the US has backed, in a rather lukewarm way, Saudi Arabia, but that’s because it needed to keep some sort of influence over the most powerful country in the region. It’s a mess over there and I don’t know what the right course of action is.

          “Whatever can be said about Gaddafi, he made peace with the U.S. and U.K.” What?

          I agree that Gaddafi capitulated in the end, but only because he was absolutely forced to. To say he wasn’t a lifelong enemy of the US is negating everything he believed in (keeping himself in power, torturing and killing his opponents, and exporting terror). The idea that Gaddafi wasn’t behind Lockerbie is extremely controversial, hardly “fact”. Most people would say that these alternate “explanations” amount to conspiracy theories, like the CIA killed JFK, or maybe it was the Soviets, etc.

          I also agree that Nelson Mandela’s ANC was previously considered a terrorist group and then became legitimate. But now look at South Africa – run by a bunch of kleptocrats who are wrecking the country. It’s tragic, but not relevant to our conversation.

          Finally, to deny the existence of a centuries-old hatred between Sunnis and Shias (long before the US was even a twinkle in Jefferson’s eye) is to misunderstand the whole Middle Eastern conflict. This is a complex region full of hatreds, old and new, groups of terrorists from many countries, all of whom are hell-bent on murdering innocent people and going to heaven for it. Russia tries to use it to its advantage and the US tries (somewhat ineffectively) to stop it.

          I can refer you to a lot of books and articles if you’d like.

          With regards,

          • “I’m afraid you’re playing fast and easy with the facts, creating a very flawed summary of events.”
            Please explain.

            “Your logic seems to be based on the idea that any enemy of the US it its creation (Saddam, Gaddafi, Hezbollah, etc). ”

            The C.I.A. hired Saddam when he was at Cairo University, and installed his Baath Party in power, twice, supporting it and Saddam for 30 years, not only in the Iran-Iraq war. Did the U.S. “create” Saddam? No, his mother did. The U.S. only used him for their short term geo-political political gain.

            The U.S. didn’t “create” Gaddafi either, his corrupt pedophile King did. His country, the poorest and most illiterate in Africa “created” him, Gaddafi turning it into the most social and economically developed in Africa. The American Black Panthers used to say they didn’t join because of Heuy Newton, they joined because of the Oakland police department. At any rate, hat did the U.S. do to help Libya’s exemplary development? Nothing. Indeed, they ended up destroying it

            Hezbollah, like all of us, was a product of it’s environment and history too, the Anglo-American’s and Israel actually helping it along at it’s inception, a way to weaken and split the P.L.O.

            “By the same logic, was Hitler the “creation” of the US? ”

            Hitler was the creation of the anti-communist and economic environment of post W.W.I Germany. Facing political oblivion after the Nazi election debacle of Nov. 1932, Hitler’s Party, bankrupt and splintered, was rescued from political oblivion by German leaders of industry and Church in a planned secret meeting in Cologne on January 4 1933, what German academics call “the birth hour of the Third Reich”. Google Kurt Freiherr von Schroeder, Franz von Papen, Hitler, January 4 1933. The purpose, as all later testified, was to save Germany from Communism. What part did Wall Street and Whitehall play? I don’t know, know one ever asked, no one ever heard about the meeting. If they had nothing to do with Hitler becoming Chancellor he would be the only anti-communist fascist of the 20th Century that wasn’t supported by the U.S. and U.K. And there were plenty.

            “How about Stalin?”

            Stalin was the product of paying the price for overthrowing the Czar, for pulling out of W.W. I, being immediately attacked by England, then later attacked by a Western alliance including the U.K., the U.S., France, Ukraine, Japan, White Russian’s and others, in the bloody Russian Civil War, 1919-24. With their back to the walls the Russian’s surprised everyone and won that one too. He was anti-Imperialist, in that sense a product of Imperialism.

            “You’re forgetting, or perhaps weren’t aware, ISIS was built on Al Qaeda in Iraq, Al Qaeda itself a U.S. construct.” No, not really….

            Not really? How was the U.S. not involved in creating Al Qaeda, the Baath Party’s rise to power, including it’s Generals, or the destruction of Iraq and quashing of Iraqi Sunni’s , all the things you say created ISIS? Apparently Denial ain’t just a river in Spain.

            “The US was not responsible for this evolution (decline) of the Baathists, but was an observor of it.”
            Only an Observer? Did you miss Operation Iraqi Freedom, the U.S. invasion that killed a million people, cost trillions, is still going on, and spreading?

            “Al Qaeda is a complete ragbag of disparate Sunni groups all over many countries, brought together by their anti-Western, anti-US hatred and belief in martyrdom through jihadisim.”

            I agree, but originally a covert U.S. creation of it’s geo-political chess game in Afghanistan. Is it still covertly supported by us? Maybe. We know our Gulf Allies are supporting them. What are the Anglo-American’s doing about it. Nothing, except lip service, as Al Qaeda and ISIS fight our war for us in Syria and Iraq.

            “While I agree that Shia’s account for only a small proportion of Islam, their engagement in world terrorism is disproportionate. Hezbollah is a major source of exporting terrorism.”

            In Israel. Many people believe they have a right to fight occupation.

            “How is overthrowing the president of Yemen via the Houthis and causing a catastrophic war there “self-defence?”

            The Houthi coup was a domestic, social economic political fight, like in many countries, not directed by Iran, and nothing to do with religion. There is no evidence to justify Iranian influence with the far superior Saudi involement.

            “The Russian’s and their allies have only responded to western aggression, not instigated it.”

            How is it you don’t support the Houthi coup, but do support the Ukrainian coup?

            “So you don’t call the Russian war in the Donbass area of Ukraine “aggression”?
            Unlike the domestic Houthi coup, the Ukranian coup was led by outside forces, fascist elements organized and supported by the West. Considering Russian-Ukraine history, and the fact that Russia made a deal with the legitimate, elected government of the Ukraine, not the fascist mob John McAine stood on stage with, and Putin brokered the March Agreement with Germany, Poland, Belaruss and the Ukraine to move up the elections, I don’t see Russia as being the aggressor, rather the armed fascist mob that didn’t want the elections, torched government buildings and chased the President out of the country. Part of democracy is waiting for the next election, in Ukraine’s case 3 months away. What could Putin do if “his” guy lost the election. Nothing.

            ” Don’t you call Russia’s backing of Iran and Hezbollah’s war in various parts of the world (Yemen, Israel) “aggression”?

            Russia is a product of it’s violent, untrusting relationship with Anglo-American Imperialism. They can have friends and interests to protect too. And both Iran and Hezbollah, like Russia, have been the target of western Imperialism from their inceptions.

            “What about the annexation of Crimea, where there are serious human rights abuses against the Tartars?”

            Crimea is a vital strategic base for Russia, they weren’t going to give it up to a fascist led coup and government it couldn’t recognize. I’m not aware of large scale abuses against the Tartars, other then deportation because they couldn’t be trusted in the aftermath of the Ukranian coup. Unfortunate. Everything was fine before the western backed coup.

            “And the large numbers of innocents that Russia has bombed in their pointless intervention in Syria, all aiding Assad and his Alawite clan?”

            The Russian’s didn’t start that war either, the West inflamed domestic unrest in their usual fashion against geo-political adversaries, money, financial support and promises to demonstrators, not to mention organizing foreign fights etc etc.

            “I agree that the US has backed, in a rather lukewarm way, Saudi Arabia”

            Lukewarm way. Who are you kidding. Their entire military is supplied and trained by the U.S., the economic relationship astronomical.

            “But that’s because it needed to keep some sort of influence over the most powerful country in the region”
            Yes, what ever is in our Imperial interest, in Saudi case cozying up to the most repressive , brutal regime on the planet, while exporting their radical interpretation inspiring terrorism to the tune of billions of dollars all across the globe.

            “It’s a mess over there and I don’t know what the right course of action is.”

            The right course of action would to hav let Nasser’s Pan Arab socialism and modernization of the Middle East take hold, not play the Islamic fundamentalist religious card to destroy it, and the Middle East in the process.

            “I agree that Gaddafi capitulated in the end, but only because he was absolutely forced to.”
            That’s what you say. He said times changed, realities changed, namely the spread of Islamic terrorism.

            “The idea that Gaddafi wasn’t behind Lockerbie is extremely controversial, hardly “fact”. Most people would say that these alternate “explanations” amount to conspiracy theories, like the CIA killed JFK, or maybe it was the Soviets, etc.”

            Wrong. Retired intelligence officers involved in the case, and others involved in the trial have come forward to prove otherwise.

            “I also agree that Nelson Mandela’s ANC was previously considered a terrorist group and then became legitimate. But now look at South Africa – run by a bunch of kleptocrats who are wrecking the country. It’s tragic, but not relevant to our conversation.”

            At least it’s the African’s screwing themselves now. I think they’ll figure it out.

            “Finally, to deny the existence of a centuries-old hatred between Sunnis and Shias (long before the US was even a twinkle in Jefferson’s eye) is to misunderstand the whole Middle Eastern conflict.”

            You misunderstand the Middle East. For every period of conflict there were long periods of Sunni-Shia cooperation and peace. The recent rift is wrapped around geo-political agendas, nothing to do with religion.

            “This is a complex region full of hatreds, old and new, groups of terrorists from many countries, all of whom are hell-bent on murdering innocent people and going to heaven for it.”

            It is tribal. Again we should have let Nasser’s Pan Arab modernization of the region take hold, not fight it. Chutzpah to blame Arabs for our misguided foreign policies. Supporting the terrorists we pretend to be at war against doesn’t help either.

            ” Russia tries to use it to its advantage and the US tries (somewhat ineffectively) to stop it.”

            Thank God they did use it. They’re at the peace table and the Syrian ceasefire is holding.

            I can refer you to a lot of books and articles if you’d like.”
            Please do. I’d be happy to reciprocate.

            With regards from my side

  2. Maybe Damari is right on the West’s stupid removals of Hussain and Gadaffi, who were keeping the extremists under some control, but he is completely wrong about their “exporting Jewish terror” All of Israel’s territory was either bought or won after being attacked and Israel should now claim sovereign rights over the West Bank. They have treated Arabs living in Israel with complete fairness and the propaganda put out by the PA, encouraged by the BBC, is total rubbish.

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